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Leisure Pools uses only the best Materials

Saturday, August 20th, 2011

Gel Coat
Fiberglass International
The gel coat is the surface layer that gives a fiberglass pools its beautiful smooth texture. It is the same texture as most boats and water slides have. It also gives the pool its color.

Leisure Pools possesses the exclusive USA rights to manufacture with the world leading Aquaguard® gel coats from FGI, a division of Nuplex Industries. FGI is a world leader in fiberglass technology.

About Aquagaurd® Gel Coat

Aquaguard® Gel coat finishes have been developed and tested by Fiberglass International (FGI) through the 1980’s and 1990’s in Australia. Over the years of development, the product called for exceptional chemical resistance, mechanical strength and weathering properties especially the later for use in exterior applications in Australia where the UV intensity is extremely high.

The technology is unique and has been subject to extensive testing programs (both accelerated and real-time) concentrated on the combination of weathering and chemical resistance.

These stunning color gel coats have been specifically developed over the last 12 years for swimming pools and designed and tested to withstand the Australian extreme UV conditions. Simply put they are the very best gel coats in the world and they are only available to be used in manufacturing within in the United States by Leisure Pools.

Resin and Fiberglass

Leisure Pools uses the highest quality isophthalics resin available from AOC, a world leader in resin technology.

AOC Resin Technology

AOC isophthalic resin is generally used in the manufacture of water and petroleum tanks. These superior resins possess a far greater resistance, strength and heat tolerance than that of the more common general purpose resins.

PPG Fiberglass To our knowledge Leisure Pools is the only USA manufacturer to use this high quality resin. Why? Simply because we are committed to building the very best quality pool available and we will not compromise on our product and stand behind our lifetime structural and 15 year color warranty (for color pools only).

Sure isophthalics resins are more expensive. In contrast, most other manufacturers use low cost “odd lot” resins that can be procured cheaply. So before you buy a pool, check with the supplier of the resin to determine the quality.

The fiberglass used in our pools is supplied by PPG. We use the highest quality Hybon 6000 which has excellent consistency and resin impregnation properties.

PPG’s fiberglass businesses continue to expand through innovation and leadership, making PPG one of the largest global manufacturers of continuous-strand fiberglass. PPG Fiberglass is a world leader in manufacturing continuous strand fiberglass used in a wide range of fiberglass applications.

Vinyl Ester or Barrier Coat Resins

The use of these resins has become widely adopted and has eliminated the problems of blistering that was evident in fiberglass product such as boats and pools about 10 years ago. Regrettably, there are still some manufactures that do not use vinyl ester or barrier coat resins.

Leisure Pools uses the highest quality AOC Vinyl Ester resins to provide the very best barrier coat protection possible.

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Leisure Pools Manufacturing Facility. Hands down the most innovative Fiberglass pool Manufacturer in the World

Thursday, March 10th, 2011



Over the past weekend Leisure Pools held it’s annual National Dealer Conference in San Antonio Texas. I must say from the minute I stepped foot on this State of the Art facility I had come to the realization that Leisure Pools is here for the Duration. The weekend was jam packed with learning experiences, new product innovations, the leisure pools plant tour and many other relationship building experiences to carry us into 2011 and beyond. The employees at Leisure Pools welcomed each and every dealer with open arms. After spending just two days in a classroom full of like minded business professionals I have come back like a man on a mission. Yea I know you have heard this before, right? Sure you have. I have to give all the Kudos in the world to one individual for changing the lives of those who attended and sat in on one of the most inspiring, highly motivational classes I personally have even been a part of. So who is this Content marketing Master Mind and where can we find him.

Well Ladies and Gentleman let me introduce you to Marcus Sheridan of River Pools and Spas Located in Virginia. Marcus runs the most visited swimming pool website in the world www.riverpoolsandspas.com Marcus not only promotes the industry as a whole, but is also directly involved in educating the small business owner on inbound marketing campaigns that is sure to help businesses flourish and reach potentials never seen before. If you would like to learn more on how Marcus can help your business succeed in 2011 and beyond please visit www.thesaleslion.com I am super stoked to have personally met Marcus and know that our creative minds will feed off each other and help the fiberglass pool industry and Leisure Pools grow well into the future.

The fiberglass Pool industry as many of you know is the fastest growing segment of the swimming pool industry currently. I give all the credit in the World to Ashley, Paul, Jerry, Alex (Mr Lead Generator himself), the Leisure Pools employees, and the rest of the Reps for putting together the most action packed educational dealer conference I have ever been a part of. I feel very fortunate to have met such a great team of people along with meeting some of the most qualified pool builders in America. Wow, what can I say but POWERFUL!

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Manufacturing Materials (Yesterday and Today)

Saturday, March 6th, 2010

Yesterday and Today The simple fact is that the materials and methods used to build boats in 1965 remain good enough to continue to be used today. 1965 technology (if you can call it that) is perfectly suited to build good quality boats to this day. In fact, most boats are still made with the same basic materials, although the advertising has fooled you into believing otherwise. The primary difference is that they are USING LESS OF IT, and substituting cheaper materials for more expensive solid laminates. Speaking of solid laminates, that’s what I mean by 1965 technology.

When it comes to the use of core materials, they are employed not, as was originally intended, to stiffen up flat structures such as decks, but to replace more costly material with less costly material. In essence, where there used to be solid laminate, the space is now filled with air, because air is what most cores are all about. It would be one thing if these cores were serving to make structures stronger. Instead, they are being used as an excuse to eliminate frames, to make unsupported spans of flat surfaces even larger. It costs money to add frames: use a core and eliminate the frames. In most cases what we end up with is not a structure that is stronger, but weaker.

Typical examples of this are hull sides and decks. The average entry level cruiser has a cored foredeck with virtually no frames. Jump on it and it’s like a trampoline. No problem, except when you do jump on it, and that deck flexes, what is happening is that the core is separating from the outer laminates. A cored structure is designed not to bend, like a bridge. When you do bend it, bad things happen, like the bridge or deck starts to fall down. Much the same thing is going on with hull sides. Most small boats don’t use foam cores, but products like CoreMat, a material that sort of looks like that absorbent material you find at the bottom of meat packaging. It’s a fibrous material with millions of little holes or perforations through it. It would be great stuff except for a couple of things.

First, it absorbs water like a sponge. Small boats never had much of a blistering problem until products like this came along. Now they blister just like Taiwan boats that are loaded with chopped strand mat and blister like a banshee. Secondly, very thin cores like these do not create a structural truss like a real core does. Cores increase strength by separating the distance of the load between the inner and outer skins. Think of the skins as beams, and the core as columns. The effect is exactly the same as a roof truss. But not when you use a thin sheet of this stuff. All it does is replace strong material with weaker material.

Take a typical cruiser, use a core like this in the house sides and then paint it black. Set it out in the Florida or Texas or Alabama sun for a few years and watch what happens. Ooooh! Weird! It buckles and cracks. Want to know why? Or do you want to know why the builder didn’t know what was going to happen? Or did he care? Oh, no, he simply didn’t know because he doesn’t employ any composite engineers. The material salesmen designed the thing for him, so he’s happy as a clam thinking he saved some money and can now tout “high tech.” What happened, of course, is called heat distortion. Every place a laminate is held rigid, like around a window frame with screws through it, the material expands but is restrained by frame and fasteners. And so it does the only thing it can do, it buckles and cracks.

I don’t hesitate for a moment in saying no. Not with any kind of material. The risk is too high that something will go wrong, mistakes either by the builder, the owners of the boat, or someone working on it. We all know that it’s hard enough to keep the superstructure of the boat from leaking, but to keep water out of a core below the water line may nigh well be impossible. Fiberglass is known to be water absorbent enough as it is without adding more risk to the mix. To do it right requires a very high degree of care which can ultimately be compromised by something as seemingly innocent as running a screw through the laminate somewhere in the bilge. it’s just too easy to make a mistake.Should Hulls Be Cored Below Waterline?

The other problem with coring a bottom has to do with the inability to calculate and estimate stress on complex shapes. It’s easy enough to calculate stress on a flat panel, but change the contours of that panel, introduce the factors imposed by human error, and any benefit that might have been obtained by coring the bottom is long lost. The risk of error multiplies exponentially, far beyond anything that is suitable for high production building. The smaller the boat, the more true this is due to the scale and economic factors. It’s one thing to core a 110 footer that costs 8 million, something else again for a boat that sells for $100k or so. The fact that the economic viability is not there for small boats translates as the builder cutting corners to turn a profit with a process he shouldn’t be using.

All of which means that you run a big risk in buying a cored hull when you could easily avoid that risk by buying one that’s not. Could the reasoning be more simple than this?

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Fiberglass pools as well as Boats are not all created Equal

Friday, March 5th, 2010

Are They Fiberglass Boats Anymore?
by David Pascoe

Not long ago I was the recipient of a rather distressing revelation.

It happened when I was asked by a client to attend an auction of storm damaged boats here in Fort Lauderdale. There were two minor hurricanes and one tropical storm in Florida last year, but other than to trees, I wasn’t aware of much damage having occurred. In fact, during one of the hurricanes, I was out there with a video camera filming what was going on at several marinas. Not much, except for a few people that did nothing to prepare. Mostly it was these people’s boats that ended up in the auction.

Arriving at the auction site, a large open field filled with damaged boats, numerous damaged small boats immediately caught my interest. In part, this was due to so many of them appearing as though they’d been caught in a monster storm like Andrew, instead of a bottom of category one storms with winds barely over hurricane strength, 74 mph. A salient point here is that we have no large, open expanses of water. Just canals and rivers. So, with a storm surge of only 18 inches at high tide, I was scratching my head about why so much damage.



Here’s a sampling of the various materials that were found within the broken up hull sides.



Here’s fine illustration of what is meant by the laminate being comprised of an extremely small amount of fiberglass reinforcement. The only glass you see here is a single layer of Roving on the inside of the hull, with the exception of a very, very thin layer of mat against the gel coat. Otherwise, the major part of this Sea Ray hull is comprised of some kind of very porous material. Notice how huge chunks have broken away. This would never happen with fiberglass laminate.

Secondly, so many of these boats had degrees of damage that I hadn’t seen before, even from major storms, yet alone minor storms. Much of the damage that I observed seemed to have occurred under different parameters. By that I mean that, in order for a fiberglass hull to become completely broken up, usually a great deal of prolonged bashing and battering against other hard objects is required. Usually a busted up hull will display extremely heavy battering as revealed by heavy gouging and many impact points on the hull. What was startling about these boats were that so many of them were busted up without revealing heavy battering.

Or, to put it another way, these boats got broken up by only a few heavy impacts, and not hours worth of sustained battering. In several of my articles on the subject of construction, I have a photo of a 42 Bertram that broke loose during Opal (1995, Florida panhandle) and was badly battered against pilings and other objects for many hours. The hull laminates did not fail, but obviously had sustained a horrendous beating. I used those photos as a good example of just how strong an ordinary fiberglass laminate can be.

What was so eye-catching about these boats is that many of the broken up pieces did not show any significant degree of heavy battering. The analogy here looked more like hitting a glass bottle with a hammer — it only takes one swing to break it.

Thirdly, what next caught my attention, and what I found truly distressing, was that these damaged boats revealed what they were made of. Simply put, whatever these materials are, I didn’t recognize many of them. And, I suspect that in looking over these photos, you won’t either.

Of course some would say, “Hey, you’re a surveyor. You’re supposed to know these things.” Right. But we don’t stand there watching thousands of boats being built, and neither do we (unless we’re willing to be mislead) take the builder’s word for it. The observation of busted up hulls, as we have here, is how we find out. Unfortunately, we don’t often get the opportunity to do that.

We talk a lot about core materials on this site because coring things like hulls and decks has, over the years, proved troublesome. There have been too many problems with materials like foam, especially delaminations and incomplete bonding of the outer skins.

But now we have something new entering the scene, something they call “advanced composites.” A composite refers basically to two or more materials that are bonded together. If you glued a piece of wood and plastic together, technically that would be a composite. A balsa cored deck is also a composite, though most of us would just as soon call it cored construction because we know what that means. When the marketing people say “advanced composites,” well, we don’t know what that means since it could be anything, which, judging by what I saw and the photos displayed here, it does mean just about anything.


Here we see a big chunk of hull side that is quite simply gone missing. Notice that the puncture hole is at the bottom of the photo. This shot gives an excellent indication of the strength properties of this “advanced composite.”


This photo further illustrates the strength of the bond between this outer skin, and the putty core. Notice that I easily hold it away with my fingers. After taking the photo, I took hold of that edge and just tore the entire outer skin of this boat off, comprising four feet of undamaged area. Notice how easily this material cracks.

The first question to cross my mind was, “Can these fairly be called fiberglass boats any more?” What we see here are hulls made with increasingly less and less fiberglass, and more and more of something else. Some of these boats were stunning in the limited amout of structural fibers used.

One good example is a Sea Ray where the hull side had ONE layer of woven roving, two thin layers of chopped strand mat, and all the rest of the laminate was some kind of brittle putty.

This reason is why Artistic Pools chooses only the finest Manufacturers in the industry today.

In another boat, only two layers of mat were separated by an expanse of putty. No STRUCTURAL fiber at all, just very weak mat. I had no doubt that if one swung a carpenter’s hammer at the side of this hull, the hammer would go right through.

What do I mean by putty? Well, the material looks just like fairing material (some call it bondo, if only because it resembles that automotive repair material). I’ve never seen this before, though the Sea Ray in question goes back to the early 1990’s. Plenty of this material was exposed. Taking pieces in my hands, I could easy crumble the stuff between my fingers. It’s not foam, it’s not Coremat, and it was found in colors of gray, pink and tan, each in different boats.

What we see here really begs the question, for glass fibers make up only a small percentage of the total laminate thickness, which, as you can see, is pitifully thin to begin with. How about a hull side on a 27 footer that is 3/16″ thick, with 2/16″ of it being this putty material? That means there was only 1/8″ of glass that included the gel coat. Could this leave any doubt about why so many of these small boats got busted to pieces in a minor storm, in a place where there was almost no storm surge? Not in my mind, anyway.

Yet another notable factor was the massive disbonding of the pitiful amounts of glass from the putty — or call it a core if you’re so inclined. Check out the photo below where I grabbed a piece of the outer skin and tore the whole thing off with minimal effort. In this case, the outer skin consisted of two layers of mat (I think). The bonding to the putty was nearly zero on both inner and outer plies. Notice how it breaks away on both sides of the “bond.” Notice how easily the stuff cracks and breaks out.

I’m not sure what the point of all this is. Frankly, I’m still so shocked by what I saw that I’ve yet to fully digest the significance of it. These examples were not confined to just a few boats, but covered a fairly wide range of builders. And most significantly, of the boats which were built with solid fiberglass construction, I did not find one that was busted up anywhere near like these “advanced composites.” Not one. There were some old Bayliners and Mainships (1970’s) that were badly battered, but none were broken up. A few cracks maybe, but mostly heavy gouging and battering.

If this is the state-of-the-art production boat building, it’s a rather pitiful state much of the industry has come to. I find it very hard not derisively call this stuff “the hamburger helper of boat building.” What I saw is beginning to explain some of the more common symptoms we see in boats that are starting to come apart. Things like deck joints coming apart, heavy cracking along toe rails and chines, bulkheads, stringers and frames breaking loose, window frames that won’t stay sealed, and heavy stress cracking occurring in places that it shouldn’t.

Never mind what these materials may be doing for the blistering problem. Why talk about high quality resins when most of the hull material consists of some unknown material?

What concerns me most as a surveyor though is that we have been calling these things fiberglass boats when, in fact, fiberglass may be only a minor ingredient. How can you call it a fiberglass boat when only 10-20% of the total is glass? Previously, we’d look at a hull and question whether it was just cored or not. Now it seems we have to question the entire matrix. What is it made of?


Need to see more? How about this one? Here’s the 3/16 or maybe 5/32″ laminate referred to. Where’s the beef? Imagine that this is all that’s separating you from the deep blue sea.

Notice the nature of this puncture wound. The impact simply breaks a chunk of the laminate out, then separates the silly putty from its single backing of roving. And then the cracks that radiate outward. It’s the lack of long fibers that accounts for this result.

Well, in the case of the photo below, appearances are misleading. If you look at the inside of the hull, what you will see is a surface made up of woven roving. The misleading part is that that is the ONLY layer of roving, with the remainder of it being some other stuff. If the surveyor called it a fiberglass boat in his report, he’d be wrong, and could be sued for his error. Unfortunately, short of cutting holes in the hull, he has no way of determining otherwise. Seeing that one layer of roving on the inside, I would likely make the same mistake too.


This view gives a better overall understanding of how large areas of a hull simply break out under impact. This is the platform extension of a 30 footer. Note the break out in the chine at lower left. With a strength factor like this, a person could reduce this boat to a pile of pieces with a carpenter’s hammer. Also notice that there are NO STRUCTURAL GLASS REINFORCEMENTS showing in many areas of this broken up hull.

What’s even worse is that you have to wonder if the builder did it that with the intent on misleading the observer. Roving is much stronger than mat by several magnitudes. For strength purposes on a composite, you’d put the roving on the outside, not the inside. Hence, it’s hard not to come to the conclusion that the roving on the inside is, indeed, intended to mislead.

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One conclusion we can certainly come to is that the strength and impact resistance of boats built with these materials is something worse than merely inadequate. In the past, it was generally true that no matter how low cost the boat, a decently laid up solid laminate hull was capable of surviving a heavy beating without the hull breaking into pieces as we see here. As near as I can tell, the boats shown here received a minor beating, and broke to pieces. How can there be any doubt of that when the major part of the laminate is nothing but putty?

It has always been the case that when a surveyor calls a boat “fiberglass,” he’s making an assumption — an article of faith based on the fact that there were no other materials being used other than standard balsa or foam cores. Now we have a new paradigm. Enter a whole host of new materials, of which no one knows anything about, but for which we are getting some pretty good indications that many of them leave a lot to be desired.

Yet all of this still begs the question of how we should refer to the hull material of these boats. I know one thing for sure: I’m going to stop calling them fiberglass reinforced plastic. For that they surely are not. I can also state with confidence that this is going to have profound implications on all aspects of boating, including owners, surveyors, insurers and, of course, the builders themselves.

Without knowing it, we have apparently entered the era of the Putty Boat.

Addendum: Fiberglass reinforced plastic. This is the full name of what, for over forty years, has been known as the fiberglass boat. It consists of a basic standard of 65% continuous glass fibers, in the form of fabrics, and 35% plastic resin. As you can see from the above photos, none of these boats meet that description. During this period of time, the fiberglass has consisted of fabrics of woven, continuous fibers. The length of some of these fibers can be as long as the boat. These fibers, much like the huge cables that hold up suspension bridges, rely upon the continuous lengths and orientation of the fibers for their strength. Today, there is a large variety of weaves available, but they are all essentially weaves of continuous fibers.

In the early years of small FRP boat building, a few companies tried making boats from chopped strands of fibers, mixed with polyester resin and blown through a gun into a mold. The length of these fibers was about 3-4 inches and were usually curled like cut hair when viewed in the mold. Very quickly we learned just how weak laminates made with short fibers are. Those “blow-molded” boats tended to break up all to soon. The chopper-gun boats soon disappeared from the scene. Today, things like shower stalls, truck fenders and the Corvette automobile body are made with chopper guns because they don’t require great strength like a boat hull. For this reason, chopped strand is not considered as a structural fiber.

That does not mean that chopped strand mat and chopper guns have disappeared from boat shops. Chopped strand mat (CSM) is still used on all boats to prevent the weave pattern of fabrics like roving from showing on the gel coat surface. A very thin layer of mat is also used between heavy fabrics to prevent concentrations of resin between the heavy fabrics. And for other uses where very high strength is not required. One of our complaints about Taiwan boats has always been that they make use of the chopper gun too much.

Yet another problem with CSM is that it wets out with resin poorly and is well known to be very porous. The use of excessive amounts of CMS and chopper gun has been directly linked with blistering that originates within the CSM, as opposed to just being under the gel coat.

What you see in the above photos is even worse, for there is far less fiber in these than in a blow molded boat. This is what accounts for the severe breakouts of large sections of the hull. Quite simply, there is no fiber reinforcement, and the single layers of roving that you see on the inside serve no better purpose than trying to put a thin sheet of steel onto a spun fiber blanket in order to make the blanket strong. The steel would impart no strength to the blanket.

Aside from that issue, to use a hard, brittle material such as we see on these boats suggests that at every point a hull side sustains an even minor impact, that putty-like stuff is going to crack. Such cracks may not show on the outside, but may remain hidden beneath the surface. In time, with repeated stress cycles, one has to wonder about the whole matrix breaking down. Not to mention such issues as water absorption and retention along with subsequent chemical changes that may occur.

Even worse, when we now look at a given boat, we can no longer take for granted what the hull material is. We simply have no way of knowing. That leaves us all in the dark. Call me a Neoluddite if you wish (the 19th century English society that opposed the industrial revolution), but my worst fears about “high tech” materials in production boat building have become a reality.

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